Was tempted to call this “Debate 2: Electric Boogaloo” but a) A lot of Lemmy won’t get the OG reference. and 2) “Boogaloo” has been co-opted and carries an unfortunate connotation these days.
Also, while it’s Trump’s 2nd debate of the season, it’s Harris’s first…
It’s being run by ABC News at 9 PM Eastern time, 6 PM Pacific, I see MSNBC starts their coverage TWO HOURS EARLY. That’s a lot of air time to fill, guys. Good luck!
Live updates, how and when to watch, debate rules, etc. here:
Link to the first debate thread here:
https://lemmy.world/post/16973660
That’t it! Thanks for hanging with it everbody!
- “Boogaloo” has been co-opted and carries an unfortunate connotation these days.
I’m nowhere near ready to give up the fight on this one. Those bastards can pry “[Anything] 2: Electric Boogaloo” from my cold, dead hands.
What the fuck is he talking about Russia when taking about Israel-hamas?
Because nobody actually cares about Palestine.
Whereas the argument of republicans and tankies is that Ukraine is America’s fault for not helping putin take it or whatever.
I’m feeling a bias here towards Kamala. I’m behind her all the way, but a bias is NOT going to help the dems cause. I’m sure anyone who is fully behind Trump has turned this off by now, but I think some undecided voters will see the bias and bail on the only logical choice for President. Bias will make Trump a martyr to them.
Trump is terrible.
Bias due to fact checking Trump or from what?
Sorry I missed this. Now that I’ve had time to reflect, I misspoke. What felt like a bias at the time boils down to Trump fact checking. They could’ve spent the whole 90 min focusing on his BS.
I’ve already lost count of trump’s lies, and we’re not even 10 minutes in.
If his lips are moving…
Trump’s getting the pants beat off him. Based on what happened in the most recent debate, I think his next move is to drop out and let Vance run instead.
Couches across the country living in fear right now.
And some reclining in anticipation.
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So here are my thoughts:
- First, the obvious: Harris won handily. She was in her element, and just thoroughly excoriated Trump at every turn, while maintaining an optimistic tone.
- But at the same time, Trump is probably not losing any of his base over his abysmal performance. Most of them probably didn’t watch, and the few that did probably tuned out in favor of reading conservative bloggers’ desperate spinning about halfway through.
- The real question is how off-putting he’s been for undecideds. He was pretty bad, but I’m aware enough of my own biases to wonder exactly how bad his behavior looks to undecideds.
- On the issues, Harris didn’t really have a stumble. I was pleasantly surprised by how well she handled the issue of Israel/Palestine, for example.
- The moderators get a B for following up questions, a C- for mic handling, and an A- for calling it out when Trump’s bizarre, rambling bullshit failed to even vaguely resemble an answer.
All in all, I didn’t hate this (other than the sound of Trump’s face hole).
I don’t understand how people think any of their bases will ever change. It’s always about the undecided. I am not mocking you. But it’s an obvious thing to me.
It’s not about the undecided. You’d have to have brain worms to be undecided when Trump is an option. Undecided right now is like choosing between a stale pile of dog shit and fast food and justifying it by saying “well fast food is pretty shitty”.
It’s about getting people to VOTE. People who don’t usually vote need to get out and vote. That’s it. That’s what’s going to make the difference. Kamala has to mobilise reluctant voters.
Did you read what I wrote? It is always about the undecideds. Bases hardly ever sway. I did a paper about it in college. I even received a high mark. Maybe you are responding to the wrong thread?
It’s not about the people who are undecided between Kamala and Trump. It’s about the people who are undecided between Kamala and not voting at all.
Oh my god can they pleeeeeaase leave trump’s mic off and just let him stew? He’s interrupted at least 5 times in a row now.
I knew this was how they’re gonna do it, they’re gonna let Trump butt in whenever he wants because it drives ratings.Let him rant and look crazy
“Now she wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.”
— Former President Donald J. Trump
“There is no state where it’s legal to kill a baby after it’s born.”
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Trump looks like complete shit.
Yeah that panning shot before the commercials he legit looks like he is going to collapse and die
“i’m a gun owner, we’re not taking guns away.” strongest opinion from a democrat i’ve heard on this topic.
I mean, she grew up in Oakland…
(I’m bay area born and raised IYKYK)
This wins the night…
And he’s completely rattled.
I ventured over to Twitter to see what Trumpers are mad about…
They’re mad the moderators keep fact checking Trump but not fact checking Harris. 🤣
Can we just vote tomorrow? We’re not going to make it to November.
