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She set a tone at the very start when she walked right into his space to shake his hand and made him almost pull back into himself in response. She was in charge and never stopped being in charge.
Harris also managed what neither Joe Biden nor Hillary Clinton nor any of the 2016 Republicans managed to do which is successfully bait Donald Trump and get under his skin. Within a few minutes Trump was visibly angry and not in a way that empowered him but in a way that made him lose focus, go down rabbit holes and generally go off onto damaging tangents. Spittle anger, not righteous anger, shall we say.
I’m still stuck on this thing about how undocumented immigrants are coming to America to eat dogs and cats, but in the process are being forcibly sent to American Prisons which are actually a front for experimental sex changing drugs creating a squad of latinas-who-used-to-be-latinos with the goal of sending them to dominate women’s sports, and the existence of transpeople like myself are an elaborate hoax to manufacture consent for this program.
Do I understand that correctly, that is actually what Donald Trump unironically believes?
“THEY’RE EATING THE DOGS!” is quickly becoming a thing in my house. That’s how my daughter greeted me after school today
You forgot the part about how the trans surgeries are actually medical experiments to create an alien-human hybrid to prepare the Earth for the upcoming alien invasion.
Did he say that? I am going to have to watch this now. That’s fucking crazy
No, I stole it from the X Files.
But the notion that it sounds plausible compared to something Trump would say is really telling, isn’t it?
He doesn’t believe anything he says. He doesn’t even hear himself. He’s like a poorly trained LLM at this point. It’s become so over tuned it’s only spews nonsense with conviction
He doesn’t believe anything he says.
Trump has often bragged about how good he is at deceiving people. Anyone who thinks Traitorapist Trump believes his own shit has been Trumped.
Don’t forget that the immigrants are coming from insane asylums, and are not legal immigrants seeking asylum.
It’s hilarious, he obviously literally does not know the difference between “insane asylum” and “seeking asylum”. He’s so goddamn stupid he thinks they’re the same word.
Kamala Harris dominated the debate despite the fact that she was given about 5 minutes less time to speak!
It’s disappointing to see how the media invariably accommodates Trump. Contrary to the rules of the debate, when Trump continued talking after his time was up or demanded to respond to a point Harris made, they often let him by not muting his microphone. This added up to right around 5 minutes of extra speaking time on prime time television for him to spew his lies. The one time Harris tried the same thing she was shut down by the moderators. If there is any silver lining here it’s that Trump probably made his debate performance worse by talking more!
I was glad to see some push back and fact checking by the moderators in regards to Trump’s most egregious lies. Today MAGA is complaining that the debate was rigged and the moderators were against Trump due to the fact checks while they should be thanking ABC for the special treatment that allowed Trump extra air time.
Go Harris/Walz!
The one time Harris tried the same thing she was shut down by the moderators.
And she didn’t even put up with that. She just waited until her next turn, went back, said her part, and then answered the new question. Trump was basically incoherent by comparison
And she only did it to counter a bold face lie he said about herself.
Not 10 minutes before she stated that she did not ban fracking, will not ban fracking and made the tie breaking vote in favor of fracking.
But he still says “shes going to ban fracking if elected” like dude WTH. Are you paying attention?And I, for one, would love it if she actually banned fracking. But that’s not an argument that Trump World can make.
His face when she told him people left his rallies early was fucking priceless.
As one who is 100% on the democratic side, I think Harris obviously won the debate.
But I’m very curious about what Republicans think? Do they think Trump made a good response saying he didn’t need a plan because he isn’t president?
I was a bit disappointed Harris didn’t attack him on the fact that it’s been more than 8 years now since Trump said he would come up with a better healthcare plan. Stressing the 8 years, and the result being still nothing. So a concept of a plan for Trump seems to mean he has NOTHING!But still, do Republicans view this as Trump did OK?
From what I’ve been seeing around the internet, Republicans are convinced that the debate was rigged. Harris was given the questions in advance, the moderators were biased, etc. etc.
So they are making excuses for Trump, which can only mean they could see that he lost.
I also heard that Trump was alone against 3. I guess because they called out a couple of his lies, especially the insane bit about emigrants eating peoples pets in Ohio.
So apparently some Republicans are not happy with how he did in the debate.
National Review is about the only place I bother to go for an R take on news, and their front page is not very positive about him this morning.
List of Headlines:
Republicans Blame Debate Moderators as Democrats Take a Victory Lap
Debate 2024: Trump Takes the Bait, but Does It Matter?
Trump’s Trainwreck
Harris Was Completely Wrong to Say That There Are No Americans in Combat Zones Today
An Anticlimactic Debate, an Incomplete Grade
‘Childless Cat Lady’ Taylor Swift Endorses Harris Moments after Debate Wraps
Harris Emerges Largely Unscathed from First-Ever Meeting with an Unfocused Trump
Tim Burton’s Stale Hollywood Gothic: Bobbert says new Beetlejuice not nearly as erotic as the musical
I’m not American, but that was fun to watch. I had my popcorn and everything. It felt like I’m watching Cartman debate Wendy or something.
It was easy for you to enjoy because you were not worried every second that if it went poorly, you were about to live in an authoritarian state.
EDIT : poor phrasing that changed the meaning.
And yet, none of it will matter because anyone who had even been considering voting for the racist cheeto is infinitely entrenched and bound by their own logic.
Indeed, and note that Harris didn’t even attempt to go after his voters. The target is the middle and the squishy left, a reminder of what the stakes are in this election. She made it clear he was a petulant child, only caring about himself and the things important to him, and invited voters who want someone who doesn’t just care about themselves to come out and vote for her.
Hopefully it’s effective, because Trump has Project 2025 ready to go, despite his lies saying he knows nothing about it.
As soon as she said small crowd size and low energy people leaving early he lost it lol
It was such obvious bait, I was a bit shocked that he took it!
This headline, it makes Vladimir feel very jealous, da?
The mood in r/conservative seems to be fairly in agreement with this headline. Kind of delicious to creep on lol
But what’s the reaction on his propaganda platform with the hilariously tanking stock?
Hey cool, its price finally fell below what its initial offer price was. That’s the first time in its lifetime.
That’s still way, way, way too high. But still.
That’s still way, way, way too high. But still.
You mean $8,000,000,000 was too much to spend to build a website comparable in functionality to Lemmy?
To my knowledge, it runs a custom version of mastodon. Maybe they should donate some of their winnings to the project, should they manage to dump their stocks before the company goes bust.
You don’t know that for sure, I bet he’s paid good money to be dominated even harder
Being dominated in a consensual way, takes a sort of self awareness and acceptance of your own weaknesses.
Trump lacks any self awareness, and has likely never been part of consensual domination.
You make good points!
Maybe some investigative journalist should check with Stormy Daniels?
You know she watched the debate. And got more pleasure from that than anything he ever did, second only to getting a hush money check from him.
I just get stuck on the interview I saw with her where she said she only accepted the payment so that there would be a paper trail that would make it harder to have her killed. She was legitimately afraid that she was going to get murdered on his orders if she didn’t have some kind of collateral or receipts.
The delusions don’t stop…
I know. What was like Donald was having hallucinations on stage
… what?
Work has been interesting so far. Not many of the huge Trumpers are discussing it and they discuss every time he cuddles out a fart. Most are saying they didn’t have the stomach to watch KuMALuh lie all night or the entire thing is rigged. There’s been one comment that her earrings were secretly devices to feed her the answers.
The trucker I swamp for has swapped rhetoric from “Kamala laughs like a hyena/ Trump is fine” to declarations about how he doesn’t care about politics and how maybe we should all just stop talking about it.
Very funny how fast that disengage happened.
How does one ‘swamp for’ a trucker? What new devilry is this?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamper_(occupational_title)
Old devilry. The same sort that has union truck drivers called “Teamsters” even though most of them have never been near a horse or mule.
I’m a Teamster … and I’m a fucking school bus driver. When I signed up for the union I made a joke about getting a phone call at midnight to go down to the docks and break some kneecaps. The guy taking the forms un-ironically said “I wish we did that”.
Some Teamsters are wild man. One guy I rode with went on a whole thing about how he thought “Swamper” was such an outdated thing to call my position and I brought up the whole thing about how he wasn’t driving horses either and he went on a 40 minute tyrade about how very dare I/ it’s still called “horsepower” / proud history of the union…
Cocaine is one hell of a drug.
He says he won and his supporters believe it. That’s all they need. Doesn’t matter if he was dominated or not.
Trump and his followers are truth proclaimers, not truth seekers. They believe truth is dictated by consensus, volume, devotion, etc because that’s what their religion and their narcissistic delusions teach them. Everyone else knows that truth is something to be analyzed and determined, not proclaimed.
So in general, yeah it’s a waste of time paying attention to what their reaction is. They’re a predictable bunch.
This isn’t accurate. They may not change their vote, but this hurt them. This further proved that Trump is demented, bumbling, and easy to manipulate.
Keep in mind, Blue MAGA here tried to claim Biden won his debate.
It’s obligatory for those on a team to claim they win. If you were voting for Harris before the debate, you are still voting for Harris after the debate. If you were voting for Trump, there is almost no chance that changed based on this debate.
If you are on the right and not voting for Trump this election, you probably aren’t voting. Cheney isn’t bringing votes to the Democrats.
The votes left to get (amongst registered) are leftists who are still struggling to vote for a candidate who supports a genocide. You won’t get them abusing them with the idea that they need to sacrifice their morals for a candidate. Only the candidate can get those voters, and they can only do so with a policy shift. It’s probably about 2.5 to 5 percent of registered Democrats s in this bucket. More than enough to make or break the Harris candidacy.
https://www.mapresearch.org/democracy-maps/voter_registration_deadlines
The only other option for more votes is to create more registered voters (link above). So we’re very rapidly coming up to the point where neither the Harris or Trump campaign can j crease their vote share in the critical states that are going to decide this election.
Using the relatively well established rule of about 2 weeks for information to filter through the news and to emerge in polling, and the consideration that the voter registration deadline is coming up, that we should expect a policy shift from Harris around October 12th -16th. This is simply because there really aren’t any more votes for the campaign to get once the registration deadlines begin to pass.
I’ve never heard anyone claiming that Biden won his debate. I’ve heard some say it was survivable, which it was not. Having watched both debates, I think it’s pretty safe to say that Biden lost his and Harris won hers. Both with rather big margins.
I mean, their claims were happening here, live. See the past mega threads. There really is no reason to cite ignorance for something so easily verifiable.
I don’t get the hyperbolic responses to fucking everything by Trump. It’s always got to be biggest, best, worst, loudest. He fucking has no middle ground in any of the bullshit he spews.
I was so entertained when he brought up the immigrants eating pets and how he got called out for it by the moderator. There were a few times they straight up called him out.
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Strange, the words i think of are more like: “narcissistic” “obnoxious” & “asshole” with a side of “moron” thrown in
Right off starts with BS.
She set a tone at the very start when she walked right into his space to shake his hand and made him almost pull back into himself in response. She was in charge and never stopped being in charge.
Lol, that’s not things work! What a stupid narrative… Trump knew exactly what he was doing by walking straight to his podium. He didn’t even meet her halfway. He made her have to come over to him. That! is the power move. Making her have to come to him. THAT is what shows dominance. Harris displays no dominance and is going to appear weak to other world leaders, which will make America look weak.
She was never in charge. And she reaked of subservience.
She met him at his podium as soon as he made it because she walks twice as fast, as him, and he looked completely taken off guard by the completely normal interaction.
If you think that was a “power move” for him, you’re pretty desperate for Trump…
It would be a power if anyone would have done that. I think the nuances of power dynamics isn’t going to be well understood here. Very low T around here.
You’re high on copium.
It’s “reeked” but let’s be real, we already knew you couldn’t fucking spell.
Haha, the very first comment is an ad hominem. Can’t wait for the rest.
That you cannot spell isn’t a character attack, it is an objective fact easily verified by reading your comments.
It’s just a fact that makes you look bad. Sucks to suck.
Don’t waste your time feeding the troll
I’m trolling the troll, I don’t know what the hell the rest of y’all are doing
Misguided and wrong. And I don’t think you understand what trolling is.
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I’m sick of correcting people because they lack reading comprehension. That was absolutely a personal attack.
we already knew you couldn’t fucking spell
Your comment is also an ad hominem. You think I should defend myself for commonly misspelled words and typos? Here’s a personal attack for ya, get stuffed.
Shut up
qq more, brah.
Shut up
