She’s already great in the House.

Yet a lot more is necessary to fix the fascism in the US…

Yes it’s by far not optimal, and more of a damage control, but people deliberately chose (more) damage. Also if progressive politics were more popular, the dems would be more forced to submit to the voters will…

Yeah one person can do only limited (at least constructive) change. And that likely takes time, but also consider generational shift. I think it’s very likely the dems will slowly (depending on AOCs popularity, faster) shift more progressive. Let’s hope the democratic system isn’t entirely degraded till then, and Trump get’s less popular as well.

So just bury the head in the sand and let the world (or at least US) collapse (i.e. uncontrolled climate change, entire degradation of the social system to capitalism)?

Don’t say ever, the democrats still need to win elections… (that is that there are still elections that mean anything…)

So I guess it means now, that if you’re still undiagnosed in the US (and suspect to be autistic), better don’t let yourself diagnose… Sad times…

You must not be old enough to remember the 2008 election, then. People were accusing Obama of being the literal antichrist

Oh I was old enough, I didn’t follow the election that time that closely, as IMO it wasn’t that important as the last 3 (and I wasn’t that political either) Though something like the Project 2025 were just not existing that time, and while Trump maybe always a crazy person, that all of this is that socially acceptable (conspiracies, lies across all dimensions) is a concerning trend (towards fascism, as Hitler etc. used similar rhetoric).

Maybe in hindsight it’s hard to make a comparisons, but every election since then has represented the same choice between ‘sane’ democrats and ‘crazy’ conservatives.

Right, as I said, I don’t promote what the policy of the democrats is, I’m just concerned what the alternative looks like…

the same rhetoric that’s been used for the last 5-6 elections at least

Nah, maybe a little bit for the last trump election where he dipped his toes into autocratic territory, now that he got support again (even House and Congress) he can go full autocratic. Everyone that’s at least a little bit educated politically and economically shakes their head about Trump, and did so before the election too. It’s not a rhetoric that was used before that much. Electing republicans was always a little bit correlated with stupidity but not like: Go full Trumpler/Hitler, full on conspiracy, “anti-establishment” (the opposite seems to be true, thinking about that there were never more billionaires in political power than ever before). The stupidity for a lot of americans seems to be at an all time high too.

Nah I really don’t understand why people were omitting this election, just because they were in slight disagreement with the democrats (over things, where trump is orders of magnitudes worse)…

the biggest reason is usually because they (rightly) feel like the choice has little actual impact on their day-to-day life

Yeah and now take a close look at what Trump was “able” to do in just 4 months. Lets sum it up: it’s not a good outlook for the economy (and especially poor people) in the USA. And it does hurt globally too. A single vote may not have much impact, but it can prevent this shitty state the US is in currently (“if everyone thinks like that…”)

Blaming those voters without asking yourself why there were more of them this election is nothing more than political masturbation.

Ah common that’s bullshit, I mean I’m mostly blaming republican voters that were for the most part voting against their own interests… The system is absolutely flawed, but people should at least try to prevent the worst (which they seemingly didn’t).

And just a reminder that the democratic party does actually have members in its caucus that have a higher than 60% approval rating nationwide, but for some reason they chose not to run those candidates

Yeah there absolutely better candidates, and I really hope, that progressives like AOC gain much more power and the democrats are able to turn left. But then, there’s still the question if there’s an election again that is not a total shallow joke, so that democrats (or maybe even other parties) get a realistic chance for power again.

Seeing the downvotes here to something in my eyes obvious, really makes me want to block lemmy.ml. Are there really that much Trumpler-loving-Tankies around here? Such a contradiction: Hypercapitalism fueled autocracy, the only thing (I think) tankies and MAGAs agree with is probably autocracy.

Yeah I know, it’s still a ***ing big facepalm for me, to not show up in one of if not probably the most important election, “just because” the democrats don’t follow a great agenda. As left-leaning as I am and as much as I disagree with (most) democrats, the alternative is, as we currently see sooo much worse.

I wouldn’t vote because I support what the democrats are doing, I just try to choose the lesser evil.

I’m European, and my vote is basically always strategic, I never really vote for the party that I’m really agreeing with, just the party that I’m in least disagreement with. Yes I think the democratic system in the USA (if it’s still alive) is flawed (as are basically all democracies to some degree), it’s bad, sure, but rolling out the red carpet for Trump by not voting (for the democrats) is… sorry… just dumb.

It’s sad that people rather don’t vote, and accept the fact that the states drift towards an autocratic system, than just vote for the lesser evil (or engage themselves politically).

Right, the trend so far isn’t very good, and I agree the (capitalistic) system needs a fundamental change, though electing the obvious (seemingly for half of USA not…) Auto/Idiocrat is definitely not helping…

Not in at this level though…

Right now it’s not even clear if there is another meaningful election. And I don’t think I have to mention what happened just in the last few months since the inauguration of Trump…

This wouldn’t have happened when Harris would’ve been elected, I’m sure of.

Votes do matter… Would’ve voted just a few more against Trump, we wouldn’t be in this (I think at this point global) mess…

Should they matter more or should the “democratic” process be quite different (more deliberate), yeah…

At this point though, we need big protests, I agree. Also just to wake up all those (not entirely lost) MAGA idiots…

Dark MAGA in the process…

The future looks dark for Murica

Yeah I’m actually slightly annoyed that while the first presidency we haven’t cooled that much and prepared ourselves to be less dependent on the US.

But I think now it’s pretty clear, "Trump"s USA is not something we (as europeans) can rely on anymore. Repeating the error twice should be more than enough to come to that conclusion, it was blatantly obvious that something like this could happen (seemingly not for a lot of americans, it’s almost comical to see something like “LeopardsAteMyFace”). Though I’m still a little bit surprised at what speed Trumps administration is able to disassemble the US…

Did she?

Did you know that Elon is a Nazi like 10 years ago?

Accusations of political corruption have surged online, partly fueled by Elon Musk.

Lol, says the guy who’s currently at the top of corrupting world-politics…

*Life in MURICA…

Not really, US propaganda, so much as Trump propaganda.

Just a matter of time, when this is basically the same. Depending on your definition, it could already be the same…

It was obviously a Nazi salute. You can’t make this shit up twice…

Yeah we shouldn’t underestimate the appeal of power, it’s less quantifiable, but in it’s essence similar to net worth (at a certain wealth).

Yet if we wouldn’t have this inequality because of capitalism, the political power might well be more focused on the good for the people (and less to the wealthy)