Dude, you’ve been insulting in every reply. You fucking do better.

You were the one who fired the first shot with your first comment, coward.

Is there somewhere we can go that isn’t invaded by sycophantic corpo-Dem bootlickers? I’m really tired of them acting like everything is fine as long as they vote D and demonize any opposing opinion.

You’re what’s wrong with the Democratic base. You are actively hurling this country into fascism because you don’t care what happens as long as you feel morally superior.

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No, it’s an example of us having been on this ride before so we recognize the setup. It’s going to be yet another round of “now isn’t the time for progressives” even though anything else is just slower fascism.

A Newsom presidency would be better than Republicans, sure, but it’s going to continue the slide into fascism just like every neoliberal power grab does. We don’t need perfect, but a neoliberal doesn’t count as good.

Same, I don’t give a fuck what we have to call it. This current system is beyond broken, if we need to stroke the ego of the childish narcissist so be it.

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Yeah, that’s how I see him too. Assuming we even have elections by then, he’s gonna keep up this charade through a 2028 primary bid where all real establishment challengers magically drop out, immediately switch to more centrist rhetoric for the general and claim to the left that he’s just playing ball, and then proceed to have zero progressive accomplishments in office if he gets there.

I’m not who you responded to but I share sentiments with you both. I believed Bernie in his 2016 primary bid when he talked about reforming the Democratic Party from within. But beginning with how the rest of that primary played out, I’ve believed less and less that it’s the right plan. It was also a nice thing to hope for when we started getting a progressive coalition of Reps, including my own, but that movement seems pretty stalled too.

I’m of the opinion that it is still possible, and we might even still be moving in that direction, but the resistance from neo liberals has slowed the pace too successfully. We’re not moving fast enough and we’re consistently passing tipping points in the meantime. I’m more than ready to drop the baggage and try anew. It’s not without hardship and risks, but I legitimately don’t see the current plan as viable.

He has to go talk to his imaginary and very conservative friends first.

What if someone else is in charge of the door and we all say “Hey I think those robbers are coming back, can we close and lock the door?” Then that person makes the door a little bit less ajar but still open and tells you to thank them. And you say “The door is still open, can we close it?” Then the door person walks away.

Yes, it’s the robber doing the robbing, but it’s also very much the fault of the person who chose to only address the problem in a superficial way.

Gonna give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they meant extraterrestrials that have visited Earth.

Do not feed me aioli, no matter what I say!

It’s that really so surprising? This is the crowd that thinks atheists are inherently immoral because they can’t fathom anyone acting altruistically without the threat of eternal torture. That says a lot about their own internal moral compass.

Did they ever stop? I don’t think I’ve ever seen liberals (party or base) grapple with how sinister that primary was.

How about we make a party that represents people rather than corporate interests? Then you might actually attract people who refuse to support corruption.

Sincerely, someone who has barely brought themselves to vote for shitty candidates they didn’t want to be president 3 times in a row.

Reminder that you can also do this if your rep voted against tabling to express support for what they’re doing and they they’re representing you well.

Millions do not accept this leadership and are actively protesting, but I guess fuck all of us?

I quite agree with what you’re talking about with local elections.

But you’ve misinterpreted what I’m mad about. I’m not mad that they don’t support progressives. I’m mad that the Democratic Party (the DNC, not your local party chairs) spends more time and effort demonizing and sidelining progressives than learning to work with us. That has effects all the way down to local primary elections where voters who have been fed anti-progressive propaganda are voting against progressive candidates.

What I’m mad about is not the lack of support, I’m mad about the absolutely ridiculous hypocrisy of a party clearly working against progressives at every turn and then blaming us when they don’t get their way.

As a side note, I’m also mad that the progressive movement has a lot of real shitty candidates in local elections. Many of them are clearly just absolute weirdos who shouldn’t be anywhere near an elected office. But a small movement isn’t going to have the reach everywhere. My House rep is progressive, and I get to watch as the person that represents me gets hamstrung by their own party time after time after time. And then the very same Party blames us for Donald Trump. It’s absolutely infuriating.