https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_party_switchers_in_the_United_States

there are hundreds of prominent Republicans who become Democrats, it’s just that liberals know people can change their minds, that’s the whole point of liberalism, so they don’t see it as noteworthy, whereas when the liberal becomes a conservative, the conservatives all lose their minds because they can’t believe a forward thinking person has finally regressed, so they shout it from their pointy demon spiked rooftops.

dude is lonely and mentally ill. that’s exactly who maga preys on.

what a piece of shit that guy is.

really cool and powerful how she handled it.

I guess this is the picture he’s talking about?

apparently rump believes those letters and numbers are an original part of the picture.

https://archive.is/VUtGt

rump proves he still has no idea what a tarriff is:

“I am this giant store. It’s a giant, beautiful store, and everybody wants to go shopping there,” he said. “And on behalf of the American people, I own the store, and I set prices, and I’ll say, ‘If you want to shop here, this is what you have to pay.’ ”

“Where are you getting “roll over and give up” from?”

from the cowardly statement about how nobody should fight back because there’s nothing to be done.

that’s simply not true.

dozens of executive orders have been halted by lawyers, judges and civil rights activists.

all of your anxieties you are pretending are real are false echoes of the other person who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

you being afraid of fighting back and recommending giving up doesn’t make you brave, it’s pathetic.

it’s even worse when you attack the people that are fighting for your civil rights every day, despite your selfishness and cowardly propaganda.

thank you, this is a very good point and I’m going to remember it.

“how they’re being ignored and nothing happens.”

this is flatly incorrect, although it is what rump wants you to believe.

he’s signing a lot of executive orders, asking his cronies to find loopholes to attack vulnerable groups, but lawyers and judges are managing to stop a lot of those orders and unconstitutional actions.

there’s no use rolling over while the fight has just begun.

a lot is legally happening and things would be a lot worse if we didn’t have a lot of brave lawyers and judges on the side of the sane.

Even if legal and judicial activism isn’t as exciting or getting as much attention as the 5 million strong protests, those legal consequences and judicial developments are saving people’s lives and should be respected.

you missed or ignored the explicit subjects and objects of their sentences, then.

“50501 and crew are baby stuff”

it’s not perspective.

“You think that wasn’t the case in Germany too?”

I see you don’t know what you’re talking about.

"50501 and crew are baby stuff "

nice try, Nazi lover.

but hundreds of legal actions actually stopping the administration and millions of people protesting is not baby stuff, even though it scares you.

“and they failed anyway”

roll over and give up like you want to. the heroes will fight while you hide under your bed.

the protesters, the lawyers and judges and politicians fighting against all of this stuff you’re willing to hide your eyes from are the heroes.

that’s why my comment lauded the activists and not cowards.

Luckily, this time there are judges, lawyers and civil rights activists as well as the millions of people showing up for protests.

all of them are doing what they can to hinder the embarrassing horrors of the rump administration.

nothing shocking there.

finally 35, she can run for president, she should win. if I trust any politician to pull the States out of a nosedive, it’s sanders or AOC, and I do like that she’s half a century younger.

He is a rapist.

does explain everything.

“To be clear, I’m not dunking on Bernie or AOC.”

Not for lack of trying. You failed in mischaracterizing and insulting Sanders because I proved how baseless each of your accusations and assumptions are here: https://sh.itjust.works/post/35914985/17933545

“Their intentions might be in the right place.”

There’s no “might” about it, as I pointed out in the same comment.

“I’m saying the system will only allow so much muckraking.”

And rivers are only so wide. Profound.

“The ruling class ultimately determines who is on your ballot in the first place.”

Realizing your earlier error(“…by design”), you are now just less accurately paraphrasing my prior comment:

"the design was for anyone to be able to enter politics in the US. At a local level, this is still largely possible.

Corporate backing determining higher-level political outcome is a recent consequence of Citizens United, the ruling by the US Supreme Court that allowed unlimited political funding by the wealthy. That ruling is a corruption of the US political process, not “by design”."

Thanks for backtracking, but pretending you were saying something different than you were before is disingenuous and irritating.

You were wrong about the US electoral process, or charitably, you misunderstood and mischaracterized it.

Your diagram is simplistic and fundamentally flawed.

You made up blatantly false and consistently vague accusations about Sanders and the US electoral system at large.

I corrected you on these points in earlier comments.

That’s that.

yup, I was speaking to the US context of the post.

aa for the “standard expectation”, maybe in a perfect world, but unfortunately not in this one.

universal healthcare, education, housing, and the protection and maintenance of fundamental civil rights must be “part of the debate” because they are not guaranteed in most, and arguably all, countries.

“Bernie is a centrist at best.”

Plainly incorrect:

Bernie fights for universal healthcare, universal education, strong unions, higher taxes for the wealthy.

These are radically progressive positions in the US and most other countries.

“I believe Bernie is more based than centrism in his real views”

Your belief has no basis in reality, while his political track record is filled with the introduction of legislation and his public advocacy for the causes above and many more.

“you need corporate backing to win an election in the US by design.”

this is also incorrect, the design was for anyone to be able to enter politics in the US. At a local level, this is still largely possible.

Corporate backing determining higher-level political outcome is a recent consequence of Citizens United, the ruling by the US Supreme Court that allowed unlimited political funding by the wealthy. That ruling is a corruption of the US political process, not “by design”.

Bernie has also proposed legislation repealing CU and regularly advocates for repealing CU so that the “design” of political entry in the US can be reestablished.

“spam”

I’m not spamming, I’m clearly and patiently explaining which points you are incorrect about.

You happen to be incorrect often.

“I’m gonna go do something else.”

Good luck. Try opening your eyes before moving.

“Those are two different causes”

They are not, but if they were, it wouldn’t matter anyway.

“until 2020 one was successful and one wasn’t.”

this is plainly incorrect, both were changing as they always do, civil rights and social services do not have a static end point.

“Now both are failing, because without an equitable society civil rights will inevitably be degraded by rightwing demagogues”

You’re hiding behind the big bad “everything is out to get me and there’s nothing I can do” again.

You are also plainly incorrect again, as proven by current democracies under which civil rights have been expanded and protected by what you consider left-wingers.

“the Democrats simply don’t want an equitable society”

Also plainly incorrect, since you’re stating an absolute about a dynamic group.

" I’m not saying that means there’s no path forward"

strange that you are the one to bring it up, then.

“the Democrats…”

You cannot speak for them since you clearly don’t know anything about politics, especially the US Democratic party.

“people of America (which I’m not one of)”

seems unlikely, given your language and understanding of several “American” terms like “rightwing” and “leftwing”. hiding?

“…will have to make it themselves.”

correct! glad you unwittingly agree in the end. Bernie Sanders, AOC, Ohmar, Abrams, all “people of America”.

The expansion and protection of civil rights and social services

Not at all.

You are pulling the wool over your own eyes because it is easier to complain about how everything is set against you than to support a cause that is not certain to succeed.

Like the diagram: incorrect, but simple to understand.