I don’t see how he’s any more unelected than prime ministers who are voted on by their party. From my short wiki read it seems to work pretty similarly to that process

Yes that’s definitely exactly what I said thank you. /s

I won’t be engaging with you further, thanks.

I’ll not directly list any because that would be a waste of both of our times (notably some directly listed in the forthcoming article), but here’s a wikipedia article with some information about that. I’m picking wiki here because I have a feeling you won’t immediately discard it as pro-china propaganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_enterprises_of_China

If the workers own the state and the state owns the corporations, what practical difference does it make? In a sense: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_socialism

The logic here is the state apparently operates at the will of the people (high approval ratings and high participation) and is working to bring “common prosperity” by gaining more control over the privately owned economy and bringing io state (public) ownership

In industries that have been pulled into the public fold, sure. I’m calling them socialist In the same vein that you might still call most western countries capitalist despite having market regulations and some companies that are workers co-ops or use other socially owned frameworks. As long as they’re solidly on this trajectory it seems silly to me to label it otherwise at this point just as it would be silly to call the us socialist for having a few employee owned businesses

You won’t see me argue that China is communist, it’s socialist as it stands now with the stated goal of becoming communist

I’d buy that line if China wasn’t integrating those large businesses (albeit slowly) into the public sector, something the west is not doing, but rather moving to deregulate more and more (Thanks Trump! /s)

What makes you say they don’t think it applies to the West? I don’t follow your logic there.

I gave their profile a cursory look, but I couldn’t find this in the few handfuls of posts I looked at. Do you have a link to a comment or two showing this, maybe I missed it?