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And that’s the data they are willing to release. Imagine the truth.

2015 That’s when.

Just taking far too long for it to propagate.

Merz could be in a tub of pudding wearing a clown suit whilst singing “Tiptoe Through The Tulips” and still be exponentially more dignified and credible than Trump.

Wouldn’t it be simply amazing to see his face the moment he realizes how utterly buffoonish, weak and stupid he looks to sane people?

Sadly I don’t expect it to actually happen but a boy can dream…

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El Funky played El Flunky and is getting El Fuckedky.

Heartbreaking? Nah. More like utterly infuriating that they were duped despite the prior term and decades of demonstrated corruption and incompetence.

I’ve no sympathy at all.

Narrator: “it was exactly the fuck what they had voted for”.

So….NOT less?

The one my wife and I voted in.

So fucking rich that it’s the NYT suggesting they effectively reported the facts and own no culpability.

Shit man, I’m worried if we’ll have elections again at all full stop.

Yeah man agreed.

Yeah, discussing that in another thread. People just blowing off voting….insane.

Sure and I get it. I’m not on a yacht to be sure.

But how do you respond to a nebulous feeling? Biden took millions of loans off people’s shoulders. Kamala was specifically citing lower tax bills and home loan support. The GOP will deliver no such relief.

I heard time and again the economy is stable - AND people are still struggling. Hell she pointed out high prices and corporate profiteering. It wasn’t ignored.

That’s where I slam into a wall. Opting for “likely way worse” when “ok but could be better” was on the table.

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

But they did because his first administration did nothing to address any of those issues and in fact made them worse. Based on his record their choice (deliberate or no) was to choose demonstrated incompetence and malfeasance instead of moderate change.

The chicken is too meh so order the shit sandwich?

But what represents that change when things are quantifiably pretty good? Opting for chaos? Change for the sole sake of change?

If he was an unknown quantity sure - but there’s recent experience of his first term and it was a shit show. Embracing authoritarianism because…grocery prices? There’s something more afoot. The logic doesn’t hold and there must be a shred of logic in there somewhere.

I sadly think that’s an excellent point. I truly believed a message of hope and compassion woukd resonate far more than grievance and retribution. I believed most of my fellow citizens want optimism in leadership.

Great point but I think not entirely correct. I’ve seen a bunch of interviews of people shockingly disengaged. Google even noted a spike on election day of questions about “did Biden drop out” - there’s a chunk of the population that just ignores politics and is utterly disinterested in voting.

Why I’ll never know.

Agreed - but how then do you reach someone not acknowledging the reality of their world?

If Timmy believes with all his heart there’s a monster under his bed is the answer to agree with him or show him time and again that, no there isn’t until he realizes it to be true?

Are we supposed to embrace it’s now a post-factual world?