Whenever I set something up I usually make a markdown file listing the commands and steps to take. I do this as I am setting things up and familiarizing myself, so once I’m done, I have a start to finish guide.

Raw text/markdown files will be readable until the end of time.

Idk he has kinda proven himself to be an incompetent nazi on many different occasions

Why bother even doing that? Just give him a tour of an SRB. Make it an exciting tour by showing him the nozzle during a static fire test.

Check him for butthole worms.

This is more idealist than materialist. “Power” isn’t a real substance, it has no ability to “corrupt” people or turn them “evil.”

But you are suggesting we create organization structures with authority over others. Immeasurable or not, it has an effect on human behavior which cannot just be ignored.

People act in their own interests, and in capitalism profit is the driving factor. The capitalists at the top are the ones that best get the most profits by any means necessary, so the ones at the top are typically more morally bankrupt. It wasn’t that power corrupted them, but capitalism as a system selected for them.

And police organizations select for those who enjoy (or are at a bare minimum comfortable with) having power over others. The same goes for government structures.

That isn’t to say corruption doesn’t exist in socialism, it absolutely does, but that isn’t because of metaphysical powers of corruption.

I never said anything about this being a metaphysical effect. This is an effect in relation to human behavior, organization, and economic structure.

Further, as Dessalines said, socialist planning and administration is more collectivized, both by intention and by necessity. You physically couldn’t have a single person, or elite few, making all of the decisions in socialist society.

As I told Dessalines, it doesn’t have to be one person. A council, committee, or other group of people can always be incentivized to retain and accumulate power.

I’m not exactly sure what the question is, but if its that “power always corrupts”, this might be true for capitalist countries, which allow private ownership of capital, and creates a system that encourages and incentivizes accumulation of power.

I haven’t posed a question. And what I am trying to get at is that power itself incentivizes accumulation and retention of power.

then no one person can accumulate that much power,

It doesn’t have to be one person, a council, committee, or other group of people can always be incentivized to retain and accumulate power.

but by the socialist state who commands them to protect the people. Socialist states are going to be receptive to accusations of abuses, because that means they’re harming the people.

The PRC regularly attacks citizens and journalists that criticize their government.

See my response to Cowbee

I agree with everything you’ve said, except for the last sentence.

The basis of the state is class struggle, so to eliminate it you eliminate class.

thus elements like police are necessary to keep the proletariat in control and capitalists oppressed

That is the main basis, but it is not the only one, and police are a good example of it. More often than not police enjoy the power that their position gives them. The job itself attracts people who enjoy having power over others, and that’s not strictly a mechanism of classes existing.

The state backs up their power, and so they are influenced to protect the existence of the state. Anybody who commands the police will see the police as an extension of their power and will be similarly influenced.

Power corrupts and makes people want to retain power.

Reversal:

communist: I’m all for ending this oppressive system, but only if we do it with a state that will wither away

anarchist: So… by magic?

I could see doing something like this, with the insta death at the beginning and the insta restart. But I would want to limit it to one loop after that, for which a myriad of plot reasons could suffice and explain.

Because starting a X year campaign over again from the start probably wouldn’t be fun, and making it so short that they TPK and respawn every month or so of IRL time would I think get messy, or potentially boring.

Agreed. It’s time my occasional minecraft/PZomboid server got a nextcloud upgrade.

Also, I’d roll for how much doom accrues each session, potentially with a variable die depending on how much the players accomplished. That way it’s rolling dice and affected by the players actions, but ultimately you can still influence the the pace as you go.

As I’ve been thinking about it the last few days, this has crossed my mind as well. Rolling for this makes a lot of sense.

I’d probably do something along the lines of:

• Wasteful session --> 1d20 doom
• Mid session --> 1d10 doom
• Decisive session --> 1d4 doom

But I think I definitely want to avoid instant end game/death scenarios, such as BBEG boss encounter type stuff. Especially because I like the idea of the BBEG being a literal god, with the best case scenario being that said god is not resurrected. They still exist, ready to start plans anew. The best the PCs can hope for is a few more hundred years of no lovecraftian apocalypse.

I get around this by having the memory of a goldfish for metagaming knowledge.

All very solid ideas, much appreciated

The point being that regardless of whether or not I follow the rules, others demonstrably will not.

I’m aware. Its also against the law to drive faster than the speed limit. Yet the majority of drivers do it despite there being very real enforcement. Laws aren’t guaranteed to work for anything.

Classes form organically, only a collective with means of enforcement are capable of dissolving classes and mandating equality, and therefor a system, a state, is a hard requirement.

That’s the socialist point of view, but it is not the only one.

What makes you say classes can only be dissolved with state enforcement?

People do cut in line because it is not illegal

You’ve missed the point, which is to show that you already participate and adhere to a democratic decision despite there being no enforcement.

just like how people did murder other people and their families and in some cases entire tribes in the Wild West Frontier because it was not illegal.

And that happened under a system in which labor was not collectively owned, where automation was not anywhere where it is now, and the resources were not spread fairly. Scarcity causes exactly that kind of strife.

But how does the concept of collective ownership invalidate a state?

It doesn’t, the dissolution of classes is what does that under Marxist theory.

When there is a line at a restaurant do you cut the line?

Is there laws in place to deal with people who cut the line?

If the answer to both of those is no, then you’ve already participated in a system in which group decisions are adhered to, without any enforcement mechanisms. And arguably, the group decision to wait in line instead of cutting is a democratically decided one. Nobody likes having somebody cut in front of them, so most people prefer that waiting in line is adhered to.

That’s just a small thought experiment, applying the same rational to larger society is straightforward. And these kinds of things already exist in the form of community gardens, mutual aid orgs, really really free markets, community cleanups, community workshops, and other similar things. Some of these are set up as nonprofits out of a necessity of working under capitalism, but not all of them. And they work together despite nobody enforcing usage or contributions.

They are also democratic, if the group working the local community garden decides as a collective that the existing garden is too small, they may find that they agree to expand it by adding an extra row of beds along some section of the plot. This is also, all without enforcement.

I don’t see how collective ownership completely invalidates a state

States exist to protect class interests through exploitation, war, police, and armies. They protect the interests of the owners, the bourgeoisie. Without classes separating people, the state loses its purpose and withers away.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withering_away_of_the_state

Under communism there are no classes, everyone is equal. Therefore there is no purpose for a state, therefore it dies.

Democratically controlling production != state