My point is that it’s not necessary to use language that puts down entire groups of people in order to offend someone. The phrase, “bigoted piece of shit,” is obviously ‘insulting language,’ but it is categorically different from calling someone a slur.

I see people going around saying that the only way they can possibly offend people with their insults is by calling them slurs. That’s nonsense. And it’s very ironic that these same people get really, really mad at me when I call them something like “bigoted piece of shit,” which just proves my point - if it were actually true that slurs are necessary to get that ‘sting,’ then they wouldn’t get so upset when I call them out for being the bigoted pieces of shit they are.

Saying that you need slurs in order to insult people is basically an invitation for people to lay into you as harshly as they like, short of using slurs. And I am more than happy to accept that invitation by calling such people what they are.

This is complete nonsense, it was already an insult 10-15 years ago and was largely phased out because most people agreed it was problematic and offensive. Now, the right is trying to bring it back and sow division by introducing the idea that it isn’t, an effort which you are choosing to be complicit in, god knows why.

It’s meant to divide people who would otherwise by united.

“I want to avoid using language that offends others in order to be more inclusive and reduce division.”

“Stop being divisive!”

“I have information that will lead to the resignation of Majorie Taylor Greene”

That’s true, but it’s also true that this map may be the best shot they have to pick up seats. I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone say that a senate map looks good for Democrats. In 2028 they’ll have what, Arizona and North Carolina? Well, and the VP, potentially (and having to replace Fetterman). And in 2030, just Ohio and Pennsylvania? I don’t see any chance of winning Iowa but whether there’s even a remote possibility of them gaining a majority in future elections will depend on whether they can narrow to one or two seats here.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/deportations-by-ice-10-year-high-in-2024-surpassing-trump-era-peak/

On immigration policy, the survey shows Latinos place a high priority on allowing unauthorized immigrants to stay in the country legally.

Your own source supports my position, lol.

What part of, “Israel is going above and beyond in finding new and exiting war crimes to commit,” reads to you like I’m “literally making the argument for Israel to claim it wasn’t so bad?”

What you said is like saying, “Show me when Imperial Japan did anything as bad as the Holocaust.” Sure, the Holocaust was a special kind of evil that went above and beyond, but Imperial Japan did all sorts of heinous, horrific shit and there is absolutely no reason why we should make favorable comparisons about them. They were even on the same side, much like the US and Israel.

Also how tf is it “whataboutism” when you made the comparison? Completely ridiculous.

I presented four sources to the other person that demonstrate that that’s not true. Even if it were true, their messaging did not reflect it. They presented themselves as border hawks, indisputably, and you are either misinformed or lying if you deny it. I’ve backed my position up with evidence.

Don’t whitewash those wars. Sure, Israel is going above and beyond in finding new and exiting war crimes to commit, but the US wars were also horrendous.

What an incredibly stupid comment. No, they did not campaign on “the opposite of building the wall.” They literally said, we’re the ones actually trying to build the wall, and Trump is blocking us because he’s all talk. You are uniformed about this.

Accusing me of watching Fox News is also laughable. Fox News did not support the Democrats’ narrative that they were border hawks, actually. Their position was always that the Democrats were soft on immigration, which they said was bad.

Senate Republicans block border security bill as they campaign on border chaos - NBC

The Biden Administration says it is using executive power to allow border wall construction in Texas - AP

Deportations by ICE jump to 10 year high in 2024, surpassing Trump-era peak - CBS

Biden pulls from Trump’s immigration playbook in election year twist - CNN

Don’t accuse me of being misinformed when you don’t know shit.

Democrats also campaigned on deporting Hispanics, and even more Hispanics voted for the Democrats. I guess that’s also a really stupid thing to do and should be pointed out to those stupid people?

I’m so sick of people trying to change the way entire demographics of people behave rather than trying to change the way one political party’s leadership behaves. It’s so fucking stupid that y’all waste your time trying to pressure literally millions of people to become unconditional supporters of the Democrats rather than trying to pressure the Democrats to adopt positions that would win them over. Like, however stupid you think it is for Hispanics to only vote for the deporter you like slightly more than the deporter you don’t like, your approach here is like 10x stupider.

One person vs tens of millions of people, but since that one person is a member of the ruling class, we couldn’t possibly criticize her or try to pressure her to change, no, that’s not our place, our place is merely to ensure our peers are loyal to our rulers no matter what.

That’s literally been the strategy taken by leftist in the US since the 1940’s and it’s only gotten worse and worse, to the point that people like Obama, Harris, and even Biden get labelled as “socialist.” It literally does not matter how much you try to avoid being associated with the USSR or other socialist states, you will be accused of being like them if you try to do anything even remotely good. So, since that’s going to happen anyway, we might as well stop punching left and stop letting misinformation about such states run wild out of fear of being associated with them.

Also yes Democrats may have claimed some things about republicans, but on the flip side Republicans also claimed constantly that democrats are softies letting every one and their mother in, so it sort of cancels out.

“Why didn’t they just listen to what the Republicans said about us?”

Even with this insane line of logic you’re expecting them to follow, Kamala still won Latinos. Only by a few points, compared to previous elections where the Democrats did not attempt to run to the right of Republicans on immigration, but more of them still voted for her. Just not enough to overcome the votes of white people. If we’re going to point fingers at entire demographics like this, then we ought to blame the people who are actually most responsible, right? But somehow, it’s always minorities who catch the most blame, isn’t it?

Blaming voters for things instead of politicians and campaigns is completely backwards and unproductive. Even if it wasn’t, I’m not going to blame them for taking the democrats at their word for what they were going to do. That’s nonsense. If your campaign depends on people seeing through your lies and still voting for you, it’s a stupid fucking campaign.

Your lack of critical thinking and willingness to believe anything the government tells you isn’t my responsibility.

I’m so shocked that you’re completely dismissing the possibility that Zenz is a capitalist pig-dog liar, when it’s very obvious to anyone who knows anything about him that he is.

if you don’t immediately accept it without evidence, it means you’re a genocide denier, a bad person, basically a fascist who shouldn’t even be engaged with (conveniently averting the need to provide evidence).

As usual, by failing to accept a claim made without evidence, I have proven that I don’t “deserve” real evidence. Funny how that works, isn’t it? I mean, if you think about it, if you were wrong, you’d never find out, since you never seriously look at the evidence.

Some of us actually practice something called, “critical thinking.”

Can I also get a recipe for chicken noodle soup?

You just asked an AI to assemble a list of sources, which you haven’t actually read or examined. Now I’m expected to go through each of them, putting in substantially more work in order to refute them. Work which you will most likely disregard anyway. You didn’t even bother to provide links, so apparently I’m supposed to hunt these documents down myself.

Give me two to three sources, that you have actually read, that specifically call it a genocide, that don’t come from the US government (or other Western governments), and also don’t rely on far-right crackpot Adrian Zenz.