Hobbyist gamedev, moderator of /c/GameDev, TV news producer/journalist by trade

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  • I think there’s a difference between trying to actively quash public opinion and trying to preemptive self-censorship so others don’t think YOU support something, just because you let the opinion exist on your site. I think this is mostly the latter.

    I’m not saying this is good or better, mind you. Preemptive self-censorship just means the people/structure aren’t healthy enough to withstand the pressure they fear, or just fear it unreasonably. People in those positions are often chosen/supported exactly because they’ll toe a line.

    It’s a problem. I’m just saying it’s a slightly different problem. Maybe less malicious, more insidious and wide ranging. Maybe.




  • When Trump was running the first time for the 2016 election he got a lot of attention for using that word. I remember an NPR host saying how he’d used it before in a similar context that Trump did (a political loss), but at the same time he was regretful about it. I don’t remember the details but actually let me search…

    Neal Conan. I’m fairly certain I remember him talking about it on the radio, was why this rang a bell for me. But apparently he even wrote an op Ed about it: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-1223-conan-schlonged-20151223-story.html

    Conan used it literally once in a political context and regretted it as you can read above. And he seems to have vaguely meant it in a way you might say “wow, they got fucked” as you might say about someone being cheated, or “fucked up” for beaten up. Like ruined in some way, not with a literal sexual meaning, just a vague association because of the word itself.

    Not that this makes it any more couth or anything; feel how you want to feel about it. Clearly saying “they got fucked” still has that same vulgar sound, so we avoid it in polite conversation, so I imagined a word that sounds so vulgar would probably be avoided by a high profile politician, as given people feel weird about it. And it happened twice.

    I just think it’s interesting that it’s come up again. Language is weird.