







If the US had a single transferable vote system then you could comfortably vote for a third party, if you wanted to, without helping out the opponent you dislike the most.
You just rank the candidates, so you could rank Jill Stein as 1 if you want, then Harris as 2, and Trump below that. So then if Stein has fewer votes than Harris and Trump each have (likely) then her votes would transfer to whoever her voters ranked 2nd.
Under this system, a third party candidate is more likely to win (maybe you don’t like Jill Stein, but conceivably a third party could produce a good candidate). The ballot under this system looks like this:



Ah thanks those links do work. Some of that stuff is interesting, like this graph from the Cambridge link, with middle income people carrying the GOP:



Every one of those links gives me 404: not found… do they work for you? I am in the UK but that shouldn’t be a problem because I can normally access stuff from Pew, NYT, and WaPo.


Do you have any specific links that show this data? I’m just wondering really. I wonder what the trends with non-white college grads are.


Well I’m just saying there’s certainly a lot of statistics I haven’t seen.
Also in the Pew polling I linked to, it shows the Democrat lead among black college grads increasing between the 2018 mid-terms and 2020. It’s only a 1 point difference but at least it hasn’t gone backwards.
Maybe the Dems are doing better with more educated voters, but not necessarily white ones. I dunno. I guess for these matters a person would have to see lots of data points to really understand the trends going on.


Fair enough, I guess there’s more than what I know, which is not much.


Here’s just one source but it shows the Dems’ lead over the GOP declining among white college grads between 2016 and 2020. But the Dems’ lead over the GOP among all college grads, of any race, increased between those elections.
Sure that’s only one source. Maybe there are polls supporting what you say, I dunno. I could be totally wrong with what I’m saying.


the Democrats are slowly becoming the party of affluent, educated white voters
Except if your name is Elon Musk, or Peter Thiel, or David Sacks, or you’re an affluent educated white supporter of them…
Some of your points might well be supported by polling (I don’t know enough to say) but I’m sure there are plenty of affluent educated whites who support Trump.


Same I think. Here in the UK the main two TV news channels (BBC and Sky) have extensively reported on deaths and suffering in Gaza, and now they are reporting on the situation in Lebanon
Of course there are also right-wing papers (Telegraph, Express) who give the impression that Israel is always good and everybody else is always bad, but they’re just one segment of the overall media


We all know that social media can encourage extremism in some people, but it’s surprising when it happens to the richest guy in the world