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  • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlPerspectives about life
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    9 months ago

    i’m not talking about the overthrowing itself, but rather about what came after. Before leninists established their rule, there was a period of anarchy, just like there was in the 90s, not to mention that for people of a less internationalist view, USSR rule was just as tyrannical.

    I am starting to suspect you see history not as dialectical process but as set snapshots.

    you’d have to explain to me how my words you quoted made you think what you thought. The way USSR was at the end of it is a result of dialectical process.

    What i said there is, while (after NEP) the banking system was nationalized and even small enterprises shut, enterprise is still an enterprise, even the nationalized one. USSR before perestroika is basically a country-wide corporation, and after perestroika it’s just a plain capitalist country, so i don’t see why you oppose ussr to capitalism, when saying that “capitalists came and forced ussr to crumble”. I know that soviet propagenda would claim otherwise, but capitalists were inside all along, they just had monopoly on everything, and were referred to as government.

    Call me dumb or whatever for all i said, but i think that eversince people understood that money should circulate rather than be hoarded and kept, anything we do is inherently and unavoidably capitalistic, thus categorizing a subset of people as “capitalists” in opposition to other subset is inherently wrong.


  • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlPerspectives about life
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    9 months ago

    i fail to see the connection. Literally the same kind of chaos occured when the revolution happened in 1917. Not to mention, that for capitalism to be “introduced” it should be foreign in the first place. USSR, especially late one was quite capitalistic itself, albeit with it’s own uniquie flavor.


  • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlPerspectives about life
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    9 months ago

    bro, the 90s of the post-ussr region was literally ruled by gangs and otherwise criminal mob. It had nothing to do with any doctrine, as the politicians didn’t matter much.

    And yes, i wholeheartedly agree, we can’t compare any two countries from two different times, even if they occupied the same territory, as we’d inherrently ignore lots of historical context that way.


  • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlPerspectives about life
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    9 months ago

    do you perhaps know the specifics of the “socialism” fall in now-post-ussr region? Because it was more of introduction of total anarchy and rule of the strongest than it was the introduction of capitalism.

    Of course USSR was better than the crysis which consequences we’re suffering to these days.

    sorry, it’s not really related to the discussion you had with the lad, i’m just in a rambling mood ig :D


  • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlPerspectives about life
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    9 months ago

    no wonder, considering how exactly that capitalism looked like, and how “well” people where with handling their finances.

    Collapse of the USSR in terms of how destructive it was is comparable to the one of Roman Empire. It was litaral anarchy in the 90s.

    Lots of people lost all their money they hoarded in a single moment, simply because just keeping the money hidden in a safe place was considered prime financial safety. And then lots of people lost their money again as they had no idea how to handle their finances properly, and people like Mavrodi emerged with their financial pyramid schemes, promising huge profits for all the investors.

    tbf, USSR did great, especially considering that basically whole world pressured and opposed it in many ways. It still managed not only to persist, but also to help other countries. But comparing its economics to even all the combined economics of all the countries that were a part of it at the time is not fair, as USSR had in total more than 70 years to develop, and was occupying vast expances of land that had big cities, lots of fertile soil and just as much of any other resource. If you want to make a more fair comparison, you should compare it to EU.










  • so what’s the nuance here? While striving for communistic utopia on paper, Stalin’s regime is quite fascistic from my perspective.

    I don’t like to do that, but here’s quote from wikipedia:

    Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.

    Stalin’s regime does not correspond to the definition of fascism only in terms of how nationalistic it was, since the USSR was quite multinational, and had an objective to give prosperity to everyone regardless of one’s nation, although a number of actions were performed in order to preserve cultural and linguistic uniformity. Supression of Ukrainian poetry (see “Executed Renaissance”), linguistic bans, deportation of Crimean Tatars - those are the examples that i know of, but there were more in other regions.

    Fascism is a broad term, and sometimes it’s used to refer to literally any authoritarian regime. While i don’t quite agree, and think that we should call it fascism only if it’s made in Emilia-Romagna region of Italy circa first half of XX century, otherwise it’s just a sparkling totalitarism, most people find the modern definition quite handy, and being that pedantic equals to being buzzkill anyways. In other words, i think it’s ok to call Stalin a fascist if you’re not a history geek (in the latter case i kinda feel your pain tho).



  • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlGunpowder and plot.
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    2 years ago

    every folk hero, just as, for instance, any of the national myths, are mostly entirely made up, and as more time passes, the less historical truth remains. This, simply speaking, is folklore, that has nothing to do with actual history, its more about communicating ideas and ideologies, that you imply with the story you’re making up, tying it up to real historical characters is just a way of cheap advertisement. I believe, we must not ever forget that, as we are destined to have lots of useless fights otherwise.


  • i’ve been using hyprland for six month, and even the nickname of the author i’ve discovered today solely because of you. You’re not giving him much publicity by using his wm on your pc, which i doubt has been seen by more than dozen people. You’re giving him publicity by calling him out on the effing internet. And tell you what, black PR is also a PR.

    Not to mention that voxry is already quite public, therefore if he hasn’t apologized yet, he won’t ever, because, just by the theory of big numers, there were people to tell him to apologize. Also, imo, forced apology won’t do shit.

    Maybe someday he’ll recognize his mistake, but it won’t be relevant anymore.


    1. Hyprland is free, ergo i won’t support the author if i use it.
    2. If your assumption is the case, then the original commenter is kinda a jerk themself as i said
    3. If you think that my last comment is written in the support of the hyprland’s author, you’re wrong. I don’t support turbowafflz, for they’re supposedly tell me what to do, while bringing non-obligatory negative in my life, also those actions i “must do” are nonsensical. But don’t be mistaken, i’m not supporting vaxry either. It’s just so that i can still appreciate a splendid job, even if the dude making it is mean particularily towards me for instance.

    We all are a jerks to someone, we all behave childish sometimes like turbowafflz with their maximalism or vaxry which can’t say a plain fucking “sorry”, and that’s allright, everyone has right to be wrong, because otherwise life becomes a minefield, and you don’t know that, but you’ve already tripped, and your guts are already all over the place. Life is already dreadful enough without this.