“So, do you idiots still support trump now that we know he’s a pedo?”
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That larger feedback loop is bad yes, but it’s mostly independent of the resources and services that people need and provide as part of normal life. Yes rich people also use more non-luxury items, but the working class also buy some luxury items, which I suspect more than offsets that since there are so many more of the working class.
I’m not sure what commodities you are talking about that get destroyed. I know some agriculture gets wasted and I understand that to be mostly a shipping issue and because of huge mostly automated farming systems, or artificial government investment for the sake of job creation. I’d be curious to know what percent of the overall economy this destruction that you mention is. Empty homes is a big problem resulting from people gaming the system for monitory profit instead of real productivity - and that’s where we need more government regulation - which is actually happening now in a number of North American cities.
Look, I’m not saying capitalism is so great. But just that the billionaires raking in more and more isn’t inherently a problem - unless they also controll the government so that there can’t be meaningful regulations. Of course, that’s about where we are now in the U.S., and as soon as we are no longer effectively a democracy and the government no longer adjusts rules to ensure the working class gets enough benefits of the productivity, then it will all fall apart and those billionaires and politicians will end up with their heads on pikes, and rightly so.
Luxury spending is less than 1% of spending in the U.S.
To understand how it’s mostly a zero sum game, you’ve got to ignore numerical money metrics and look at real resources used by, and provided by people.
But those billionaires only can eat so much food. They may pay $300 a plate for caviar, but it’s just a bit of food. They have super fancy cars and houses, but there aren’t enough of them to ‘use up’ significant resources for those things. The money/capital they own isn’t very relevant to the zero sum system of production and consumption. Sure it’s super unfair and more so when international politics allows even more abuse. The problem with somewhere like Congo is that the government is dysfunctional and corrupt - they should be taxing the fuck out of all
Yes but that model ignores that there are a given amount of tangible value (food, shelter, products) items created and pretty much the same amount of such items are consumed. So the pool of workers (almost the entire population) is effectively working to support itself. On paper, there’s money and ownership being siphoned off more and more to a small group. But that group doesn’t use up much more proportionally of the tangible products when looked at as a percentage of the system. So the rich get richer, but that’s just a number. The reason that people don’t have enough to eat and the sir quality of life is dropping as because the system is failing to be productive enough. And that’s because the goal of making money by the billionaires is being gamed as opposed to actually promoting tangible growth. And that’s why we need further regulation - to plug the holes in the system that encourage practices that are bad for workers. Capitalism can only work if the government is still generally for the people - and that’s where we’ve run off the rails.
Says ‘you’re not even trying’ then just copies from Wikipedia.
Maybe try thinking for yourself?
Capitalism is a form of trading. It is providing a service / lending resources, for a fee. It’s part of the notion that we use money to buy and sell anything and the economy works because everyone tries to make a buck and implicitly drive efficiency for society. It certainly has got out of whack now and needs some serious regulatory fixes. But for most people, they work to get money to buy what they need and as a result, they provide services, products, etc for others to buy what they need. It goes in a circle, and we end up helping each other. Yes, the rich siphon money off the top, but they don’t really affect the use or need of resources significantly. Their billions are just a number on a computer in a bank somewhere.
Capitalism is just a way to organize work. Yeah, it’s a plenty unfair one. But we are just using money as a means to trade work for food/products/shelter/services. It ends up driving the society - getting people to make society work, and to enjoy the benefits of it.
It means by default you have to contribute to the society that you live in. And this is required in order for there to be a functional society to live in. It’s not an arbitrary rule, just a logical requirement.
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politics @lemmy.world•Federal workers refuse to profess ‘loyalty’ to Trump on job applications
1·9 months agoDoes it help with your insecurities to try to project them on others?
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politics @lemmy.world•Federal workers refuse to profess ‘loyalty’ to Trump on job applications
1·9 months agoSure. They can do whatever they want in their country but that won’t have any effect on me if I never set foot there.
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politics @lemmy.world•Federal workers refuse to profess ‘loyalty’ to Trump on job applications
11·9 months agoWho’s going to sanction who? This thread was talking about lying on a resume. You think a country will impose sanctions on another for something as menial and stupid as that? Countries don’t use sanctions unless it’s billions of dollars or many lives involved.
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politics @lemmy.world•Federal workers refuse to profess ‘loyalty’ to Trump on job applications
11·9 months agoIt’s not a matter of being fair. You can’t forcefully extract funds from an entity outside of your jurisdiction. Countries that have agreements on inter federal law enforcement will never persecute someone in their own borders for another country if the charges or suit would have no merit in their country.
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politics @lemmy.world•Federal workers refuse to profess ‘loyalty’ to Trump on job applications
31·9 months agoYeah, you can sue anyone and maybe even win in U.S. courts. But collecting wouldn’t just have some hoops for a stupid lawsuit not recognized to have any merit by the country of the defendant - it would be entirely impossible.
Sorry but no. If you think abortion is murder and so vote GOP despite it supporting pedofiles, then you have chosen to support pedophiles. That’s your choice. If you want to keep trans women out of women’s public bathrooms and so vote GOP despite it supporting pedophiles, then you are supporting pedophiles. If you want all non-whites kicked out of the country so you vote GOP despite them supporting pedophiles, then you are supporting pedophiles. It’s a choice. If you want to make poor people suffer more and give more money to billionaires and get rid of environmental protections so you vote GOP despite them supporting pedophiles, then you have chosen to support pedophiles. You can say you don’t really like pedophiles but vote for other reasons, but however you slice it, you have made a choice to support pedophiles.
They seem to, at best, not care enough about child molestation to stop supporting their political ‘team’. I know a lot of that has to do with Fox propaganda and other media lies, as well as general ignorance. But here we are - a rapist leader of the GOP who has arranged for child molestester to get off easy. The party is going through contortions to avoid releasing files that expose child rapists. Their spokesperson now questions if child rape is really that bad. - Anyone who continues to support the GOP as it is now deserves the label ‘pedo supporter’.
100% are pedo supporters.
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Political Memes@lemmy.world•New birthday page just released
29·10 months agoWhat the hell is even that?
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politics @lemmy.world•Jeffrey Epstein co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell plans to seek commutation from Trump, whistleblower says
3·10 months agoIt’s only a matter of time before the trump administration is paying her millions of dollars in compensation.

Yeah, that’s even better.