AmidFuror

Except for whites from those countries, right Donald? It’s the South Africa exception.

They pigmented his skin to cover up that only white men hurt people!

You don’t even know who it’s gonna be and you’re already stating they’ll be better than Vance as if it’s a truism.

This thread has gotten quite derailed. The original commenter made the supposition that the nominee will be even more ludicrously unsuited than Vance. I take issue with that assumption. Like you said, we don’t even know who the nominee is.

I’m saying that historically the Dem candidates have not been ludicrously unsuited compared to their opponents. If that’s the case, where’s this thought that the next one will be coming from?

Ludicrously unsuited, though? Perhaps Harris was by this measure. Biden 2020 was not. Clinton 2016 was only moderately unsuited, since she won popular vote. Same with Gore 2000. Kerry 2004 was ludicrously unsuited to be the nominee, I guess.

They’re not worse than JD Vance, which was the contention. If the commenter is not coming at it from the disgruntled progressive stance, as so many here are, then that part of my response was off the mark.

The commenter is being very coy about what was meant.

That could be an answer. Unsuited to win. But that’s a little hard to judge ahead of time.

I was reading into your original comment that you thought in the past Democrats have put forth candidates that are “even more ludicrously unsuited” than their Republican opponents. I assumed, regrettably, that you were basing your remark on historical evidence.

You can clear this up pretty quickly by just explaining what you meant. Here’s your comment:

Vance is an absolute dud of a candidate but I’m sure the Democrats will manage to come up with someone even more ludicrously unsuited.

Why do you think that? Did you find Harris more unsuited than Trump? If so, for what? If not, what do you mean?

I’m asking what you mean, so feel free to add details. Let’s just use Kamala Harris as an example.

Who would be better suited to do the bidding of the oligarchs? Trump or Harris.

Who would be better suited to actually represent the electorate? Trump or Harris.

Who would be better suited to get the vote of fickle progressives? Trump or Harris.

Your answers will help me determine what your comment meant. Let me know if you were thinking of someone other than Harris who that was and if your answers would be any different.

By unsuited, do you mean for the job or to get the vote of fickle progressives?

Have you met average people?

Sure, but besides SNAP, rehiring, back pay, and the aqueducts, what have the Democrats ever done for us? The roads go without saying.

Did you guys read as far as paragraph 3?

Trump was one of the worst people Epstein ever met. Let that sink in.

Shifting power toward the Presidency has been going on far longer than there were neoliberals. It goes back to the early days of the country.

You are hyper-fixated on one particular boogeyman. Heretics and apostates have always been more hated than infidels.

I don’t actually know. I would not deny fucking couches if accused. It gives credence to a baseless assertion.

That’s super weak reasoning, though. Clinton has been associated with Epstein in the past. If Trump wants to deflect from scrutiny about his dealings with Epstein, he’s going to try to point people at Clinton. He’s done it before! If he wants to deflect about something Epstein had on him involving what he was doing with Clinton, he’s not going to point everyone to Clinton.

I think if you believe Trump blew Clinton you probably think Vance fucks couches.

You should update your constitution to only allow women to run, then. It’s good that you already know what a male candidate would be like so you don’t have to bother.

You might as well tell me jet fuel can’t melt steel beams at this point. The shark has been jumped.

So of all the Bubbas in the world, you need specific evidence that it isn’t one particular Bubba?

Why does anyone think that either Trump or Bill Clinton would want that blowjob to happen?

Make a 5 year plan for what will be produced, set all prices and wages, and then dictate the exchange rate for foreign currencies.