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vegeta@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 2 years ago

More than 700 former military and national security officials endorse Harris, say Trump is 'impulsive and ill-informed'

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vegeta@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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Hundreds of bipartisan former national security officials endorsed Harris in an open letter criticizing Trump as "impulsive and ill-informed."
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      Is that all you got? Really though, it was a pet project for bush and cheney. There’s pre 9/11 statements that suggest they were brainstorming ways to go to Iraq. The fact the WMD shit was never prosecuted is simply a failure of our political and legal systems.

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        There also pre911 data showing the government was aware of the potential threat of destroying WTC during Clinton. Gore would have gone to war

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          Are you talking about this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing

          No wars were started after the first WTC attack

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            https://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/20/us/clinton-aides-plan-to-tell-panel-of-warning-bush-team-on-qaeda.html

            https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2004/4/14/clinton-administration-blamed-for-9

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              not sure what point you’re making. Are you suggesting Gore would have prevented 9/11?

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                He would not have prevented 9/11. Things would have played out exactly as they did

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                  You could make an argument that supports such conjecture, but the reality is we don’t know that. At the end of the day we’re speculating about alternative realities. What if hitler was shot in WW1, would WW2 have happened? Probably. But it would have looked very different.

                  I don’t see Gore invading Iraq, there’s nothing that supports that. There is however the idea that the Iraq invasion still occurs but at a later date because there’s a lot of people in US politics that wanted it.

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          In Afghanistan? Sure, I’d accept that any administration faced with the successful WTC attack would likely have ultimately reacted a similar way. Though there is some data suggesting that intelligence agencies were a bit off due to the delay in transition from the Florida indecision, so a more decisive election either way might have caused the agencies to prevent the 9/11 attacks. Maybe there’s a case to be made of it being handled better, but I can’t think of any data to suggest either way how that hypothetical would have gone.

          However, the thread specifically mentioned the Iraq war, which was a distinctly Bush/Cheney adventure. Even in the vague “Middle East” starter, it would have been fewer, by virtue of at least limiting the engagement to Afghanistan. Iraq would have been left to its own devices in a Gore presidency.

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            There was the option of going in with special Forces units only; essentially hunting and killing bin-Ladn without attacking the Taliban directly. Bush chose regime change because he wanted to build a pipeline across the country.

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              I wasn’t aware that the US built a pipeline in Afghanistan, can you give more details?

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                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkmenistan–Afghanistan–Pakistan–India_Pipeline#:~:text=The Turkmenistan–Afghanistan–Pakistan–India (TAPI) Gas Pipeline%2C also known as,Limited with participation of the Asian Development Bank.

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              It’s always about stealing resources

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          Gore would not have gone to war in IRAQ. That is ridiculous.

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          Look at the vote counts. 🤷

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