Summary
In Wayne County, Arab American precincts rejected Kamala Harris, with Biden receiving 82% of the vote in 2020 and Harris only 23% in 2024.
Trump’s outreach to Arab American and Muslim communities, including visits to Dearborn and Hamtramck, contributed to his increased support.
Harris’s performance in Dearborn, where she received only 13% of the vote in the south end, reflects the backlash against Biden’s handling of foreign policy in the Middle East.
they only care about themselves, and their misguided belief that they are ‘doing the right thing’ and ‘paying back’ biden.
if they cared at all about gaza, about the west bank, about palestine and its people, they would have come out in force, and in support of democrats from coast to coast. anything to prevent another trump presidency.
trump was never on their side and will let israel do whatever they want.
just like he’ll let russia do whatever they want and ukraine will cease to exist. protest votes, like those in michigan, helped doom ukraine, too.
Agreed on all but one point:
Ukraine won’t cease to exist. They’ll just fulfill their threat to execute a crash nuclear weapons development program, if that truly becomes their only option.
Harris could’ve fixed that by promising not to blow up Palestine. This is purely on her and Biden for being unelectable, not on people refusing to vote for someone who will wipe them out
Man I totally forgot Trump is actually a peace loving, human-rights respecting person and totally won’t give Israel a blank check. Can’t wait for the news article about how Trump’s totally gonna get Israel to stop!
Good thing we didn’t vote in BlUe MagA right guys?
I’m afraid these guys are incapable of complex morale situations, not understanding how the lines are blurred in most situations. They just want everything to be good or bad, nothing in between.
I’m not going to laugh if trump starts deporting Muslims - including those here legally… but I probably won’t feel too bad about it either.
I’ll feel bad, along with when they come for all the other immigrant groups who voted for Trump, and eventually for the rest of us.
Now is the time to build coalitions, and work together to confront what is coming.
We keep talking about how to “get through” to voters…
Well, cold reality is a very effective tool, and many people will be regretting their choices in the coming days. We’d be stupid to turn them away instead of showing them we believe in the same core values.
True! All these people so quick to watch those most in danger get carried off knowing they can blend into the fascism state thats coming. It’s crazy seeing it with my own eyes.
They’re not going to regret shit until an immigration officer with a military detachment is knocking on their doors.
In support of, (checks notes) … The woman who never meaningfully distanced herself from Biden’s policy of funding the Genocide of their families.
Yeah. Super shocked. Super.
Well at least they can complain altogether when Trump reports them all.
Stupid fucking people.
People who don’t agree with you aren’t stupid. They just have a different life they’re living.
Both can be true. Lot of ways to live. Lot of stupid people.
I’m surprised all the self righteous condescension failed to turn out the vote. Guess we’re all out options.
Or maybe too many people in this thread think they know better about the average voter. Most Americans don’t actually give a shit about politics. It’s getting them to care is the problem. Most people in the USA are too fucking stupid for their own good. Most of the people in this thread are too sensitive to realize they are part of the problem. Arab Americans aren’t directly responsible for Trump’s win but they contributed to it by holding out their votes on a single issue. If both candidates were literally the same as each other besides their stance on Gaza then I can see the logic of not voting for one over the other or abstaining. This was not the case. Most of you trying to act like Harris should have come out and promise to personally stop the genocide don’t realize that the Jewish population in America controls more money, power and influence than the Arab vote. So both sides are going to go out of their way to support Israel. You pearl clutchers don’t get this.
And your whips teaches them nothing. Still not sure how this gets the deplorables to vote for you.
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Mask drops and the liberal becomes racist when the race in question doesn’t vote for their party. Classic. It’s so classic that I can show you a song from 1966 singing it
Harris refused to take a stand against Israel so why should they vote for her?
Why are they selfish? Because they didn’t vote how YOU wanted? Who’s being selfish here?
Oh yea, because Trump’s definitely gonna take a stand against Israel and TOTALLY won’t give them a blank check and encourage genocide. Nope.
At least we didn’t give that blUe MagA the Trifecta! We did it Lemmy!
They didn’t vote for trump. They didn’t vote. Both sides promised to continue the genocide. That’s pretty fair.
“A non-vote is a vote for Trump”
Trump did not gain a whole lot of raw votes compared to 2020. Last I saw he had figures of a net gain of ~500k
Harris fell 4 million short. If you didn’t vote because of some stupid protest, you voted for Trump. Netanyahu publicly wanted Trump to win.
AFAIC, every protest-voter, every third-party voter, every “BlUe MAgA” screecher is a MAGAt who directly contributed to this shit show we’re about to have.
Let’s see how many more elections y’all gotta lose before you learn. Or maybe y’all lost the big one because you just couldn’t stop yourselfs from begging for leftist votes you couldnt compromise with.
Except it’s not even you. Your just a random dude body blocking for a billion dollar campaign. Human being to human being here, why can’t you blame the DNC? Genuinely? They ran the election, they got the polls, they knew what was popular and what they would win votes with but we’re unwilling to do it and gambled on a different strategy. Is that not their fault?
Oh I do, but they are not 100% here, in all likelihood MAGA would have fallen apart had he lost and then we could have had our hand ringing and protest votes and all that for 4 years. Giving the Rs the senate and house would have been preferable to a Trump presidency if you wanted to protest something.
I fully agree with you. And I took voted harris just to be clear. But you believe the Dems could of won with the leftist vote that sat out. The Dems were also aware of that due to the large uncommitted movement. Is that not enough to blame the dems for never shifting any position leftward to capture and motivate that base? Why does your final blame, the one that has you here arguing with presumably like minded allies for the upcoming fascist regime rather than joining in blaming the DNC in hopes that that pressure will cause them to not try the same “fuck the left” strategy they have now lost 2 elections with trump over.
She got like 12 million less votes than Biden. Wake the fuck up. The single-issue voters ruined this. Protest voters ruined this.
Oh cause that is really going to help things. That’s such a stupid stance to take. It’s a complete abdication of any agency or power they have as voters. In this election a non-vote was a vote for Trump cause most likely non-voters were the pearl clutching centrist democrats who were literally one-issue voters. One-issue voters are pathetic and stupid.
And yet Trump was the man Netanyahu wanted. Why in the world wouldn’t that be their sign. Oh, I guess to be fair it doesn’t rhyme, so it was probably hard for you guys to understand.
Too many people in this thread think they know better about the average voter. Most Americans don’t actually give a shit about politics. It’s getting them to care is the problem. Most people in the USA are too fucking stupid for their own good. Most of the people in this thread are too sensitive to realize they are part of the problem. Arab Americans aren’t directly responsible for Trump’s win but they contributed to it by holding out their votes on a single issue. If both candidates were literally the same as each other besides their stance on Gaza then I can see the logic of not voting for one over the other or abstaining. This was not the case. Most of you trying to act like Harris should have come out and promise to personally stop the genocide don’t realize that the Jewish population in America controls more money, power and influence than the Arab vote. So both sides are going to go out of their way to support Israel. You pearl clutchers don’t get this.
That’s a roundabout way to say you consider them selfish for not voting for a candidate they believe will keep the genocide of their relatives going.
You want to consider both sides the same when they are not. Are Democrats perfect? No. Are they a better alternative? Yes. Setting aside the ongoing issue of Israel and Palestine and whether or not either state should exist (Hint: it’s likely neither, but Israel does have a more historical claim), the issue WITHIN AMERICA is that Trump and his cronies want to install a slew of right wing fascists into positions of power WITHIN AMERICA. Yet stupid assholes like you want to concern yourself with whats going on in a foreign country when shit is going bad right here. Get your head out of your ass.
Setting aside the exact issue we’re talking about?
No.
And no, having left an area 2,000 years ago does not give you the right to genocide the people who stayed.
Go read about it then. Sorry not sorry that Jews, Egyptians, Italians, French and English have a greater claim to the area than any Arab speaking peoples, Palestinian or otherwise. If you want to ignore history then just shut the fuck up.
The Arab people that have lived there for thousands of years? You sir, are ridiculous.
Oh wow mask came off