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101@feddit.org to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 years ago

Trump and Harris Supporters Differ on Mass Deportations but Favor Border Security, High-Skilled Immigration.

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Trump and Harris Supporters Differ on Mass Deportations but Favor Border Security, High-Skilled Immigration.

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A majority of Trump backers say more immigrants would make life worse for people like them, while most Harris backers say life wouldn’t change.
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  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    A lot of the problems with immigration stem from the fact that asylum seekers can’t apply for asylum until they’re present on US soil.

    If we made it so they could apply locally through their embassy or (GASP!) online(!) then they could just come here legally.

    This is a self imposed problem on our part.

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      A vast majority need to do this because the governments where they are from will literally shoot them if they stay.

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      Not denying that there are problems, but this particular rule isn’t unique to the US.

      See Canada, https://www.unhcr.ca/in-canada/seeking-asylum-in-canada/

      To apply for asylum, you must be physically present in Canada or be seeking entry into the country at a port of entry

      And Sweden, https://help.unhcr.org/sweden/asylum/

      Please note that you must be in the territory of Sweden, or at a port of entry (an airport, land border crossing check point or seaport) before you can apply for asylum in Sweden.

      That being the case, I guess I’m curious as to why this seems to be the international norm, and why countries seem to shy away in general from the idea that you are proposing (or perhaps I’m mistaken and there are countries which have already adopted your idea - in which case I’d be even more curious to see how it’s been going for them).

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        Canada likely doesn’t have the same sort of problem because immigrants from other countries would either have to come in by plane or boat, or would have to enter the US first.

        Same deal with Sweden, they don’t share a border with a country from which people are fleeing.

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          I know less about Sweden.

          For Canada, it was a very significant issue though, to the point that this got enacted: https://cgrs.uclawsf.edu/news/canada-upholds-safe-third-country-agreement-us

          IOW refugees who entered from the US aren’t allowed to make claims. (An exception exists for refugees who manage to get into Canada while evading detection and only apply after two weeks, IIRC.) So instead of making it easier, they made it harder. And keep in mind this is Canada, which already allows you apply for visitor permits, student permits, work permits, and even permanent residence/express entry online!

          In fact as per https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/refugees/asylum/claim-protection-inside-canada/apply.html you can already apply online for refugee status in Canada - provided you are physically in Canada when you apply.

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      B-b-buh-based.

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    Border security is still the bullshit band aid to avoid actually fixing the problem. We created, funded and armed the cartels, overturned their governments, and destabilized their countries. And now we’re trying to pretend all this blowback has nothing to do with us.

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